[GTALUG] browsers

[o1bigtenor via talk]

Greetings

I am not asking about how to solve Firefox issues (IMO the best way
would be to get rid of the garbage) but am looking for some input.
Firefox dies on me - - - and often. Am running a Debian testing box
with 2 gpus and 4 monitors (and more than 20 GM of RAM) so I run the
proprietary drivers (nouveau devs still seem to only use one monitor
so they don't have any way that I know of to set up a four monitor 2
gpu setup). To have some privacy I run Noscript and only give limited
approval for access. Firefox seems to be only set up to run on M$
systems. The sometimes 5 and more deaths (FF) per day are getting
quite old.

Are there any options for browsers that work?

I'd use Chromium but I'm quite tired of google using me to get rich
(especially when their search engine isn't near as good as they want
me to think it is (I generally use Duckduckgo)) - - - so any ideas?

I've tried Min, Opera, Vivaldi doesn't really work well (imo).

Ideas/suggestions welcome!

Regards

Dee
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[Don Tai via talk]

I run primarily FF Quantum 61.0.1 with the NoScript plugin (limited
approvals) on Ubuntu 16.04 and have no issues. I also run Tor with no
plugins (pretty much FF) and have no issues.

You could try Brave, which is based on Chromium. There's a version for
Linux.

Don

Post by o1bigtenor via talk
Greetings
I am not asking about how to solve Firefox issues (IMO the best way
would be to get rid of the garbage) but am looking for some input.
Firefox dies on me - - - and often. Am running a Debian testing box
with 2 gpus and 4 monitors (and more than 20 GM of RAM) so I run the
proprietary drivers (nouveau devs still seem to only use one monitor
so they don't have any way that I know of to set up a four monitor 2
gpu setup). To have some privacy I run Noscript and only give limited
approval for access. Firefox seems to be only set up to run on M$
systems. The sometimes 5 and more deaths (FF) per day are getting
quite old.
Are there any options for browsers that work?
I'd use Chromium but I'm quite tired of google using me to get rich
(especially when their search engine isn't near as good as they want
me to think it is (I generally use Duckduckgo)) - - - so any ideas?
I've tried Min, Opera, Vivaldi doesn't really work well (imo).
Ideas/suggestions welcome!
Regards
Dee
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[Charles Philip Chan via talk]

To have some privacy I run Noscript and only give limited approval
for access. Firefox seems to be only set up to run on M$ systems. The
sometimes 5 and more deaths (FF) per day are getting quite old.

Strange, I rarely have Firefox die on me (my machine's up time is
between kernel upgrades and Firefox is always running with noscript as
one of the addons). However, I am on OpenSUSE Tumbleweed using the Intel
driver.

You should try to figure out what is causing the crashs. Have you tried
turning off GPU acceleration in Firefox?

Charles

[Jason Shaw via talk]

Another Firefox (nightly at that) + noscript user here, running stretch/sid
and not having any crashes. I don't have the beast of a machine that you
do, so I usually have <20 tabs open at a time, but I also run them in
Firefox Containers, which makes them a little more resource hungry.

I suggest figuring out the crash conditions and submitting bug reports to
Mozilla to get them figured out. Ever since FF ~50 or so, it's been rock
solid for me, and the containers to keep tracking cookies contained is
wonderful.

-jason

Post by Charles Philip Chan via talk

To have some privacy I run Noscript and only give limited approval
for access. Firefox seems to be only set up to run on M$ systems. The
sometimes 5 and more deaths (FF) per day are getting quite old.

Strange, I rarely have Firefox die on me (my machine's up time is
between kernel upgrades and Firefox is always running with noscript as
one of the addons). However, I am on OpenSUSE Tumbleweed using the Intel
driver.
You should try to figure out what is causing the crashs. Have you tried
turning off GPU acceleration in Firefox?
Charles
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[o1bigtenor via talk]

Post by Jason Shaw via talk
Another Firefox (nightly at that) + noscript user here, running stretch/sid
and not having any crashes. I don't have the beast of a machine that you
do, so I usually have <20 tabs open at a time, but I also run them in
Firefox Containers, which makes them a little more resource hungry.
I suggest figuring out the crash conditions and submitting bug reports to
Mozilla to get them figured out. Ever since FF ~50 or so, it's been rock
solid for me, and the containers to keep tracking cookies contained is
wonderful.

I've been complaining about FF for about 5 years. I've had the machine
about 6 .5
years and have enough ram so that if things were coded well I shouldn't have to
worry about space requirements.
I do tend to use a lot of tabs - - - -I've had well over 300 of them
at once but lately
I don't seem to even be able to get to 50 and with piles of ram - - -
well that means
that the confluence of the kernel, graphics drivers and FF - - - its a mess imo.

I've tried reporting things quite a while ago but as the dev team just
didn't seem to
be interested and my system is a little out of the ordinary I've come
to realize that
its just a waste of time as the people responding are NOT the ones
with knowledge
of the coding and that's who needs to hear things but they don't seem
to be interested.
OH well - - - that's why I'm looking for an alternative but I'm loath
to give ms google
an easy look into my affairs!

Thanks for the ideas.

Dee
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[o1bigtenor via talk]

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 6:48 PM, Charles Philip Chan via talk

Post by Charles Philip Chan via talk

To have some privacy I run Noscript and only give limited approval
for access. Firefox seems to be only set up to run on M$ systems. The
sometimes 5 and more deaths (FF) per day are getting quite old.

Strange, I rarely have Firefox die on me (my machine's up time is
between kernel upgrades and Firefox is always running with noscript as
one of the addons). However, I am on OpenSUSE Tumbleweed using the Intel
driver.
You should try to figure out what is causing the crashs. Have you tried
turning off GPU acceleration in Firefox?

The crashes seem to be related to libglib-2.0 - - - exactly what that means - -
well - - - I don't know. I increased the level from 4 to 7 on the GPU
settings as
I have ram to burn.

Thanks for the ideas!!

Dee
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