[GTALUG] September talk with Marcel Gagne is on youtube

[Alex Volkov via talk]

Hey Everyone,

You can now watch the recording of our September 2018 meeting -- How
Open Source Destroyed the Past, Created the Present, and Will One Day,
Save the Future with Marcel Gagne.


Presentation --

Q&A --

The video is also available on the meeting page --
https://gtalug.org/meeting/2018-09/


In fact past meeting pages link to all recorded videos.


Cheers,

Alex.

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[Kevin Cozens via talk]

You can now watch the recording of our September 2018 meeting -- How Open
Source Destroyed the Past, Created the Present, and Will One Day, Save the
Future with Marcel Gagne.

Nice presentation. I have one minor nit to pick in the presentation. Marcel
has an error in the video which can be seen at 14:50. The project called
GIMP hasn't been called "The GIMP" in several years.
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[Evan Leibovitch via talk]

Post by Kevin Cozens via talk
Nice presentation. I have one minor nit to pick in the presentation. Marcel
has an error in the video which can be seen at 14:50. The project called
GIMP hasn't been called "The GIMP" in several years.

Sheesh. THAT is worth calling out?

- The term "The GIMP" is certainly
<https://www.lifewire.com/the-gimp-review-1701606> still
<https://launchpad.net/gimp> extant
<https://filehippo.com/download_the-gimp-32bit/>
- The introduction at gimp.org says it is the official website of "*the*
GNU Image Manipulation Program (GIMP)". So "the GIMP" is a fully legitimate
and grammatically sound use of the acronym.
- The open source movement is now 20 years old. Taking offence at
pedantic linguistic slights is so 1990s unless your initials are RMS

If use of "The GIMP" is archaic, who's it hurting?
Not what the project wants to call it anymore? Maybe.
Protecting a trademark? Doubtful.
Error? Certainly not.
To me it's kind of endearing and unique. Like when I hear Buckeye fans talk
about their university ....

But then again, what do I know? I still refer to the Skydome and O'Keefe
Centre, I identify TV and radio stations by their call letters, and I'll
always call them streetcars rather than LRTs.
- Evan

[D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk]

| From: Evan Leibovitch via talk <***@gtalug.org>

| On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 at 23:29, Kevin Cozens via talk <***@gtalug.org> wrote:

| > The project called
| > GIMP hasn't been called "The GIMP" in several years.
|
| Sheesh. THAT is worth calling out?

| If use of "The GIMP" is archaic, who's it hurting?

Here's a possible explanation. I'm not speaking for Kevin but only
for myself. I didn't call this out, but you asked, so here's my
thinking. None of this is about Marcel's talk; it's about the project
name.

The word "gimp" is a derogatory word for certain physical
disabilities.

The phrase "the gimp" identifies a person by his or her disability.
Identifying people by their disabilities is definitely a Bad Thing. I
presume that I don't need to explain this after perhaps 40 years of
advocacy on this matter.

Naming the software "The GIMP" linked this software to this
unfortunate phrase. Renaming it "GIMP" reduces this, although the
name still makes me uncomfortable. It's hard to forget something once
you've thought it.

Contrast this (a bit) with "git". That too is an insult, but not (in
my mind) associated with any disability. It turns out that it did
originally mean "bastard" but I feel that it has lost that association
(as has the word "bastard" when used as an insult). So "git" doesn't
bother me although I would have given it a different name.
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[James Knott via talk]

Post by Kevin Cozens via talk

Post by Alex Volkov via talk
You can now watch the recording of our September 2018 meeting -- How
Open Source Destroyed the Past, Created the Present, and Will One
Day, Save the Future with Marcel Gagne.

Nice presentation. I have one minor nit to pick in the presentation.
Marcel has an error in the video which can be seen at 14:50. The
project called GIMP hasn't been called "The GIMP" in several years.

That's really lame. 
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