I am so sorry, I made a stupid assumption.
Post by ac via talkPost by Bob Jonkman via talkThis seems to describe a problem where the recipient's mail service
subscribes to a spam blocklist that is incorrectly blocking GTALUG.
this is NOT the case...
It is not GTALUG that is blocked... GTALUG is completely clean and in a
clean IP range.
email server checks all "Received: from " against whatever RBL dnsbl, etc.
Post by ac via talknot really.
the polar other side of your opinion is my opinion :)
people supporting and paying money to resource whores who also are non
responsive to abuse complaints and whom also may host criminals and
other scumbags deserve to have their email refused :)
the days of 'bullet proof' hosting are nearing the end as many mail
server admins are simply tired of constantly trying to do battle with
snowshoe and other rubbish.
of course, again, best practise is not to 'drop' but to score email
incoming from abusive hosts and IP numbers as well as bad places on
the net, and at first mark them as spam, report that spam and then,
eventually, these resources will also end up in a permanent drop
dnsbl :)
and;
Post by Bob Jonkman via talk--Bob, who is experiencing such problems with the lists he manages.
does your list require people to opt in? or are people simply added
and then expected to unsubscribe?
see, sometimes 'people' are not real people, they could be data in
stolen databases, they could be submitted by devious 3rd parties to
cause your list harm, there could be so many issues...
If you are just adding email addresses to your list :) - then you will
find yourself experiencing issues if something goes wrong and you are
reported somewhere...
On Fri, 27 Jul 2018 00:23:50 -0400
Post by Bob Jonkman via talkThis seems to describe a problem where the recipient's mail service
subscribes to a spam blocklist that is incorrectly blocking GTALUG.
This is not GTALUG's problem; the recipients not receiving mail
should complain to their mail provider to use a better blocklist.
Or perhaps those recipients should switch to a different mail
provider that doesn't use that blocklist. Selfhosting springs to
mind...
Alex shouldn't have to contact every poorly configured blocklist
when recipient mail providers choose to use those poorly configured
blocklists. Of course, when the recipients' mail provider doesn't
give any indication to the recipient that their mail is being
blocked, it's difficult for the recipient to know they're missing
it's impossible for the list owner to let the recipient know their
mail is bouncing.
--Bob, who is experiencing such problems with the lists he manages.
Post by Alex Volkov via talkOh, it's not the messages that list receives that get filtered
out, it's when mailman sends out list to the recipients, some who
have spamhaus and running on an IPv6 port get mailing list
messages filtered.
We could disable IPv6 on our end, but it just feels wrong to me.
Here's the error message I'm getting on my personal email server
mail.flamy.ca[2600:3c03:e000:173::1] said: 554
5.7.1 Service unavailable; Client host
[2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe50:ea0a] blocked using
sbl.spamhaus.org;https://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/query/SBLCSS
(in reply to RCPT TO command)
I believe the following hosts have similar settings to mine --
csclub.uwaterloo.ca
vex.net
I believe there are 7 people including myself, that get routinely
affected by the issue.
Post by ac via talkHi,
There seems to be many people using non blocking RBL for DROP?
Alex, Instead of using that specific spamhaus DNSBL for DROP you
should rather use it for scoring?
An example of a DROP RBL is chronic webiron.com and
dnsbl.ascams.com these you can use for DROP?
Will it not be better to add scoring to sa and then to add numeric values?
hth
Andre
On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 12:06:23 -0400
Post by Alex Volkov via talkWe also have a web interface for mailman, so you can check if
you're messages are showing up there, since the default mailing
list settings is not to receive your own emails.
https://gtalug.org/pipermail/talk/
Post by James Knott via talkLet me know if you don't receive this message. ;-)
I sent it to both the list and you directly, so you can see if
it got through the list.
Post by Lennart Sorensen via talkI don't think I have received any messages from the list in
about 2 weeks. The only thing I have gotten is a message
saying I have been removed due to bounces (strangely that one
didn't bounce). No idea why that would happen since other
things work fine, including lkml which is notorious for
hating bouncing emails.
Anyone have any idea what could be going on?
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